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Message 5986 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 8:46:14 UTC

The recent maintenance outage was necessary as the database server was running out of disk space. I archived the trigger data and trimmed the BOINC result tables so that the project should have a year's worth of space at current rates. However, this means that the BOINC credit scripts will be turned off - so there will be no BOINC credits added in future workunits until further notice. If BOINC credits are very important to you, you should probably stop running QCN.

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Message 5987 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 12:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 5986.

It is not the credit, but the progress of credit points shows me QCN is working well. Is there another way to determine this?

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Message 5988 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 16:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 5987.

I guess look at the graphics? or just click on a recent completed task here on the website and you'll see if there are any errors.

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Message 5989 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 17:07:26 UTC - in response to Message 5986.

The recent maintenance outage was necessary as the database server was running out of disk space. I archived the trigger data and trimmed the BOINC result tables so that the project should have a year's worth of space at current rates. However, this means that the BOINC credit scripts will be turned off - so there will be no BOINC credits added in future workunits until further notice. If BOINC credits are very important to you, you should probably stop running QCN.


Advice taken... I have now removed QCN from the two devices I had it running on.

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Message 5990 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 20:05:20 UTC

I will keep QCN running regardless of credit. This is an important project that has real time purpose.

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Message 5991 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 23:09:03 UTC - in response to Message 5986.

Hi. Getting no new tasks. Communication deferred.

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Message 5992 - Posted: 4 Dec 2015, 23:53:24 UTC

12/5/2015 7:52:25 AM Quake-Catcher Network Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

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Message 5993 - Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 4:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 5992.
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It should be up now - I took it down to do one final update for BOINC server software, and created a million workunits which should last two years if the servers stay up. The project is now on "autopilot" as there is no funding or personnel left. It's possible CalTech will apply for funding & hire staff in the future. I'm sorry about the credits but since BOINC has no automatic function for 'non-compute intensive" (NCI) applications such as QCN - running the credit script means that the entire result & workunit tables (which are huge) have to be kept; and with our old hardware there's no way the project can even go a few months without these huge tables pruned and archived.

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Message 5994 - Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 4:59:33 UTC - in response to Message 5993.

Thanks for all of your help Carl.
And good luck with your future endeavours.

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Message 5995 - Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 9:00:16 UTC

If you create a campaign at BU you should buy better hardware....
http://www.bitcoinutopia.com/create/#.VmKm-Xp7Hmg

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Message 5996 - Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 13:37:27 UTC - in response to Message 5995.

As posted elsewhere, experimenting with a large area network of simple sensors is being taken up by professional groups, so there's no need to continue with the pioneering work done by QCN.
However, the new projects will most likely be in the California area where the original testing was done, rather than globally using BOINC.

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Message 5997 - Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 17:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 5988.

Hi!
Agree with @Solneman: never seen any of real earthquakes captured by my devices yet, so the only "something works" result were the points.
If we could help you to buy new HW - I believe you just have to tell this right and clear.
Before we have lost the credits for the project, already, and as of now I even cannot see any progress on "Your computers" page.

With your current approach I just wish you all the best and good bye!

Yours faithfully,

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Message 5998 - Posted: 5 Dec 2015, 22:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 5997.

It's not just hardware - I've probably done a month of free work which I'll never get back or get paid for - I think I've gone far and above the call of duty on this project and it's time to move on. If you just look at your "Computer Triggers" page you'll see if your computer/sensor are working (ie sending a trickle/trigger every half hour; or when a "bump" is detected) etc.

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Message 6001 - Posted: 8 Dec 2015, 15:49:35 UTC

Anyone wanna buy a used sensor? :)

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Message 6005 - Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 16:55:56 UTC - in response to Message 5986.

its not about the credits but you could be a little less condescending to those users wishing to keep track a little more closely to the use.

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Message 6007 - Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 17:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 6005.

There's nothing to keep track of, the project is over.

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Message 6010 - Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 18:53:49 UTC - in response to Message 6005.
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I don't know what's to keep track of -- I've kept this project alive longer and better - and for free - than projects with numerous full-time paid staff like CPDN. Maybe QCN will get resurrected in the future but I announced almost a year ago that things were winding down, funding was over, I was the last person standing, and credits were stopping (I kept them going until last week) - so I don't know what's the big surprise. Like modern warfare - it seems BOINC projects have no exit strategy! ;-)

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Message 6072 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 20:35:39 UTC - in response to Message 6010.

The exit strategy is typically just shutting off the lights after the announced ending date has been given. SIMAP and Docking@home were good examples. They gave crunchers a time frame and then once that time came, it was done. No lingering work units to auto send. No further accounts being created. However, with this project, people are left with wondering hope that maybe just maybe it will be revived in some way.

I think you did a great job and it is a shame the project is in limbo. I wish you happy endeavors.
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Message 6099 - Posted: 1 Jan 2016, 3:03:46 UTC

I suppose that no one in the "professional" community will be looking at any of the data being collected by QCN. Perhaps the data is superfluous in light of the "more advanced" seismic monitors being put in place -- primarily in CA???
Not sure if or how that relates to the increasing scrutiny of activity in and around Oklahoma and Arkansas.

As far as the data collection is concerned... a check of the activity map on the QCN website shows recent, on going recording of activity. Recent events with Richter values appear to be current. I can certainly see that there is activity on my own sensor when I double click it (on the map). The assigned credit provided a handy gauge but is not great loss. I plan on leaving the low consumption application running as long as the server is online and accepting data.

Who knows? The New Madrid "big one" or some other significant event may hit in the American mid-west during the remaining data collection period and help fill in the sort of data gaps that the professionals are attempting to fill in on the West Coast! There are certainly other locations around the globe where coverage is sparse but something truly significant could materialize.

As with SETI -- if no one listens we will never hear.

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Message 6100 - Posted: 1 Jan 2016, 17:19:32 UTC - in response to Message 6099.

I don't know why nobody has mentioned it yet, but there are three other projects that are still running that you can use your sensors at:

http://qcn.emsc-csem.org/sensor/
http://qcn.twgrid.org/sensor/
http://www.ras.unam.mx/sensor/

All three are active, sending WUs, granting credit, results are being imported by the stats sites, and they enable you to look at your sensor and the maps. No need to install and new drivers, just stop running this project, attach to one of the above and carry on.

You're welcome ;)

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